Comments on: When Knowledge Disappears http://foolswisdom.com/when-knowledge-disappears/ A fool and his blog are soon parted. Sun, 18 Dec 2011 21:05:51 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3 By: Dito http://foolswisdom.com/when-knowledge-disappears/comment-page-1/#comment-110208 Dito Thu, 21 Feb 2008 19:45:35 +0000 http://foolswisdom.com/when-knowledge-disappears/#comment-110208 I often think of all the information that is lost when servers die or pages are changes/deleted/lost. Thankfully, most information has a copy of itself somewhere else on the net (like the wayback machine or for recent losses, google's cache). I often think of all the information that is lost when servers die or pages are changes/deleted/lost. Thankfully, most information has a copy of itself somewhere else on the net (like the wayback machine or for recent losses, google’s cache).

]]> By: Eli Goldberg http://foolswisdom.com/when-knowledge-disappears/comment-page-1/#comment-101564 Eli Goldberg Tue, 15 Jan 2008 13:43:32 +0000 http://foolswisdom.com/when-knowledge-disappears/#comment-101564 Although I'm sure there was never a trace of malice, I think you raise a good point about the importance of making sure "published" articles go up in a form where the publisher is invested in keeping it available. I'm glad you appreciated the bug verification article enough to motivate Mike to put it back up (thanks guy). Ironically, did you remember that it was originally written 8 years ago for a public website of a long out-of-business company -- where it also disappeared for years after they went belly-up? Personally, I think this article should have been adapted for/migrated into the Mozilla wiki/QA docs where it would have been propagated more broadly, but nothing happened when we ran that by them 2 years ago. Recently, I've spent about ~40-50 hours working on an article about how services marketing practices could be applied to software development. (I think I sent you an early-ish draft via IM, if not, you are welcome to it.). I'm definitely going to make sure that, if it can be published, it'll go up with a venue where it'll actually *stay up*. There's no way I'd put that much work into something, without compensation, other than to have it be accessible to people for the foreseeable future. P.S. Mike, since you didn't also restore the "3 golden rules" article, I'll hope that means you whipped your dev team into shape and solved those three areas by now! Although I’m sure there was never a trace of malice, I think you raise a good point about the importance of making sure “published” articles go up in a form where the publisher is invested in keeping it available.

I’m glad you appreciated the bug verification article enough to motivate Mike to put it back up (thanks guy). Ironically, did you remember that it was originally written 8 years ago for a public website of a long out-of-business company — where it also disappeared for years after they went belly-up?

Personally, I think this article should have been adapted for/migrated into the Mozilla wiki/QA docs where it would have been propagated more broadly, but nothing happened when we ran that by them 2 years ago.

Recently, I’ve spent about ~40-50 hours working on an article about how services marketing practices could be applied to software development. (I think I sent you an early-ish draft via IM, if not, you are welcome to it.). I’m definitely going to make sure that, if it can be published, it’ll go up with a venue where it’ll actually *stay up*. There’s no way I’d put that much work into something, without compensation, other than to have it be accessible to people for the foreseeable future.

P.S. Mike, since you didn’t also restore the “3 golden rules” article, I’ll hope that means you whipped your dev team into shape and solved those three areas by now!

]]> By: Language traveler http://foolswisdom.com/when-knowledge-disappears/comment-page-1/#comment-100690 Language traveler Sat, 12 Jan 2008 23:17:12 +0000 http://foolswisdom.com/when-knowledge-disappears/#comment-100690 I totally agree with Micheal, I still recall pages that I visited many years ago that were so modern, they are now gone. There is a nostalgia even on the net. Cheers, Tristan I totally agree with Micheal, I still recall pages that I visited many years ago that were so modern, they are now gone. There is a nostalgia even on the net.

Cheers,
Tristan

]]> By: Michael Rowles http://foolswisdom.com/when-knowledge-disappears/comment-page-1/#comment-97644 Michael Rowles Thu, 03 Jan 2008 18:06:54 +0000 http://foolswisdom.com/when-knowledge-disappears/#comment-97644 Great article on verifying a bug and great post about...life. You put your head down and go to work a youngster and next thing you know you pick it up and YOU are the 'old guy'. When did late 30's become old? I thought the 30's was the new 20's, well don't ask anyone actually in their 20's. Again, great article on bugs! All the best, Michael Rowles SMB Security CopiaTECH Great article on verifying a bug and great post about…life. You put your head down and go to work a youngster and next thing you know you pick it up and YOU are the ‘old guy’. When did late 30′s become old? I thought the 30′s was the new 20′s, well don’t ask anyone actually in their 20′s.

Again, great article on bugs!

All the best,

Michael Rowles
SMB Security
CopiaTECH

]]> By: Gene http://foolswisdom.com/when-knowledge-disappears/comment-page-1/#comment-97438 Gene Wed, 02 Jan 2008 08:13:00 +0000 http://foolswisdom.com/when-knowledge-disappears/#comment-97438 The rate at which knowledge and people disappear from the web or at least move so substantially that it requires extra effort to find again proves that there are still innovations to be developed. Now if I could just remember my third grade teachers name perhaps I could find her on the web! On a slightly more serious note I would expect some of the same old problems to be in existence for the foreseeable future. A Traverler On The Journey! Gene The rate at which knowledge and people disappear from the web or at least move so substantially that it requires extra effort to find again proves that there are still innovations to be developed.

Now if I could just remember my third grade teachers name perhaps I could find her on the web!

On a slightly more serious note I would expect some of the same old problems to be in existence for the foreseeable future.

A Traverler On The Journey!
Gene

]]> By: Mike Dosik http://foolswisdom.com/when-knowledge-disappears/comment-page-1/#comment-96457 Mike Dosik Sat, 29 Dec 2007 00:22:37 +0000 http://foolswisdom.com/when-knowledge-disappears/#comment-96457 Hey Lloyd, wiki.flock.com was becoming so out of date with misinformation and we didn't have the time to keep it current, we decided to take it down. Sometimes allowing wrong information to be available is worse than no information. I also wouldn't say the information was destroyed but rather archived (though not very accessible). Eli's notes on verifying a bug are definitely very good and I've restored the page in all its glory here: http://developer.flock.com/wiki/Verifying_A_Bug Thanks for the heads up. Mike Hey Lloyd,

wiki.flock.com was becoming so out of date with misinformation and we didn’t have the time to keep it current, we decided to take it down. Sometimes allowing wrong information to be available is worse than no information. I also wouldn’t say the information was destroyed but rather archived (though not very accessible).

Eli’s notes on verifying a bug are definitely very good and I’ve restored the page in all its glory here:

http://developer.flock.com/wiki/Verifying_A_Bug

Thanks for the heads up.

Mike

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