Comments on: Serious Accusation, Scoble Shot The Sheriff http://foolswisdom.com/serious-accusation-scoble-shot-the-sheriff/ A fool and his blog are soon parted. Thu, 20 Nov 2008 13:25:04 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.7-beta2-9617 hourly 1 By: Lloyd http://foolswisdom.com/serious-accusation-scoble-shot-the-sheriff/comment-page-1/#comment-101298 Lloyd Mon, 14 Jan 2008 21:51:41 +0000 http://foolswisdom.com/serious-accusation-scoble-shot-the-sheriff/#comment-101298 Dennis, strong arguments stand on their own, and do not need you appealing to his associates. Outlined? Repeated? Expanded upon? You both are mixing issues like a witch's brew. Crispness of argument? First, that would require a crispness of accusation. Wait and see? The <a href="http://dataportability.org/" rel="nofollow">DataPortability</a> very foundation is participation in the conversation. I don't imagine Thomas' valuable contribution will be focused on whether or not Scoble broke the law, but what his expertise really seems to be, <strong>how services can treat personal data appropriately</strong>. I completely agree that Thomas and you are discussing important issues, but you should have left your accusation out of it, or tempered it with appropriate doubts, and that is where you fail in your responsibility of leveling such a serious accusation. Dennis, strong arguments stand on their own, and do not need you appealing to his associates.

Outlined? Repeated? Expanded upon? You both are mixing issues like a witch’s brew.

Crispness of argument? First, that would require a crispness of accusation.

Wait and see? The DataPortability very foundation is participation in the conversation. I don’t imagine Thomas’ valuable contribution will be focused on whether or not Scoble broke the law, but what his expertise really seems to be, how services can treat personal data appropriately.

I completely agree that Thomas and you are discussing important issues, but you should have left your accusation out of it, or tempered it with appropriate doubts, and that is where you fail in your responsibility of leveling such a serious accusation.

]]> By: Dennis Howlett http://foolswisdom.com/serious-accusation-scoble-shot-the-sheriff/comment-page-1/#comment-101268 Dennis Howlett Mon, 14 Jan 2008 20:01:01 +0000 http://foolswisdom.com/serious-accusation-scoble-shot-the-sheriff/#comment-101268 Thomas has outlined the position which I have repeated and expanded upon. In the various comments made it is clear there is an issue under law. He has acknowledged the law needs work. The fact the Dataportability group has invited Thomas - who is a soon to be minted Gartner analyst - to the table speaks volumes. They clearly believe there is an issue or they would have chosen to ignore him. I know Thomas personally and he is a person of significant intellect and integrity. That is why I picked up on what he had to day. There is no requirement for him to show precedent because such law as he referred to is written in plain English and readily understood. Rather than continue what is becoming a circular argument, why not wait and see what the outcome of the work being undertaken by the Data Portabilitygroup? Then we'll all know. In the meantime, speaking personally, I stand by what I said precisely because of the crispness of Thomas's argument and my own experience in this field. Thomas has outlined the position which I have repeated and expanded upon. In the various comments made it is clear there is an issue under law. He has acknowledged the law needs work. The fact the Dataportability group has invited Thomas - who is a soon to be minted Gartner analyst - to the table speaks volumes. They clearly believe there is an issue or they would have chosen to ignore him. I know Thomas personally and he is a person of significant intellect and integrity. That is why I picked up on what he had to day. There is no requirement for him to show precedent because such law as he referred to is written in plain English and readily understood. Rather than continue what is becoming a circular argument, why not wait and see what the outcome of the work being undertaken by the Data Portabilitygroup? Then we’ll all know. In the meantime, speaking personally, I stand by what I said precisely because of the crispness of Thomas’s argument and my own experience in this field.

]]> By: Lloyd http://foolswisdom.com/serious-accusation-scoble-shot-the-sheriff/comment-page-1/#comment-101245 Lloyd Mon, 14 Jan 2008 18:45:04 +0000 http://foolswisdom.com/serious-accusation-scoble-shot-the-sheriff/#comment-101245 Hi Thomas, It isn't a matter of whether I like your prose style. It is inappropriate for such a serious accusation. Suggesting someone follow the tangle of the article let alone the comments should be embarassing. Live up to the responsible of such a serious accusation, and write a piece with clear arguments, focus, and reference including to legal precedent. Hi Thomas, It isn’t a matter of whether I like your prose style. It is inappropriate for such a serious accusation. Suggesting someone follow the tangle of the article let alone the comments should be embarassing. Live up to the responsible of such a serious accusation, and write a piece with clear arguments, focus, and reference including to legal precedent.

]]> By: Daniel Lackey http://foolswisdom.com/serious-accusation-scoble-shot-the-sheriff/comment-page-1/#comment-100997 Daniel Lackey Sun, 13 Jan 2008 18:44:24 +0000 http://foolswisdom.com/serious-accusation-scoble-shot-the-sheriff/#comment-100997 I'm still confused. How does EU law pertain to an American? I can break any state law specific to somewhere like Alaska, but since I live in Michigan, breaking an Alaskan law (provided there is no similar law in Michigan) has no repercussions. Am I missing something? I’m still confused. How does EU law pertain to an American? I can break any state law specific to somewhere like Alaska, but since I live in Michigan, breaking an Alaskan law (provided there is no similar law in Michigan) has no repercussions. Am I missing something?

]]> By: thomas otter http://foolswisdom.com/serious-accusation-scoble-shot-the-sheriff/comment-page-1/#comment-100824 thomas otter Sun, 13 Jan 2008 05:23:17 +0000 http://foolswisdom.com/serious-accusation-scoble-shot-the-sheriff/#comment-100824 Lloyd. Please see my comment 67 for my response to the many comments on my post. Also see comment 70 for the response of a UK based legal Academic. I cant be any clearer than that, and I'm sorry you dont like my prose style. Feel free to drop me a note about where I'm unclear. In 67 I also cover my legal background, so at the risk of being arrogant, I do know a bit about this topic. I don't really understand your allegation on my own interests. Regards Thomas Lloyd.
Please see my comment 67 for my response to the many comments on my post.
Also see comment 70 for the response of a UK based legal Academic.

I cant be any clearer than that, and I’m sorry you dont like my prose style.

Feel free to drop me a note about where I’m unclear. In 67 I also cover my legal background, so at the risk of being arrogant, I do know a bit about this topic.

I don’t really understand your allegation on my own interests.

Regards
Thomas

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