Comments on: Scoble Breaks EU Laws By Updating His Address Book?! http://foolswisdom.com/scoble-breaks-eu-laws-by-updating-his-address-book/ A fool and his blog are soon parted. Sun, 18 Dec 2011 21:05:51 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3 By: Chris Vance http://foolswisdom.com/scoble-breaks-eu-laws-by-updating-his-address-book/comment-page-1/#comment-100827 Chris Vance Sun, 13 Jan 2008 05:36:15 +0000 http://foolswisdom.com/scoble-breaks-eu-laws-by-updating-his-address-book/#comment-100827 Regarding my email privacy, I've prefer that I give a company my email address directly. This contradicts the Plaxo situation where another individual provides the company with my email address without my consent. I don't have the opportunity to decline to provide the address to the company. It doesn't have to be about email addresses -- I suspect it's more serious with providing third-party companies with physical mailing addresses of other individuals. Fortunately (?!?) I'm not friends with Mr. Scoble. Regarding my email privacy, I’ve prefer that I give a company my email address directly. This contradicts the Plaxo situation where another individual provides the company with my email address without my consent. I don’t have the opportunity to decline to provide the address to the company.

It doesn’t have to be about email addresses — I suspect it’s more serious with providing third-party companies with physical mailing addresses of other individuals.

Fortunately (?!?) I’m not friends with Mr. Scoble.

]]> By: Thomas Otter http://foolswisdom.com/scoble-breaks-eu-laws-by-updating-his-address-book/comment-page-1/#comment-100393 Thomas Otter Sat, 12 Jan 2008 07:03:13 +0000 http://foolswisdom.com/scoble-breaks-eu-laws-by-updating-his-address-book/#comment-100393 LLoyd, Glad you read the post, sorry if you couldn't follow my line of reasoning. If you head back to the comments I have tried to respond to the majority of the comments. I wasn't writing the post to educate the world on EU privacy law. But directive is a EU level legal instrument that is then transposed in national law. (hence the mention of UK law) 1. the facebook T&C set the basis for the relationship, not your personal definition of what being facebook friends allows or doesnt allow. 2. Testing an alpha product on behalf of plaxo wasnt what people gave him the data for. As you are based in Canada, you may want to look at the position under Canadian privacy law yourself. http://www.privcom.gc.ca/speech/2004/vs/vs_sp-d_040331_e.asp It is very similar to the EU directive http://www.privcom.gc.ca/information/02_05_d_08_e.asp LLoyd,
Glad you read the post, sorry if you couldn’t follow my line of reasoning. If you head back to the comments I have tried to respond to the majority of the comments.

I wasn’t writing the post to educate the world on EU privacy law.

But directive is a EU level legal instrument that is then transposed in national law. (hence the mention of UK law)

1. the facebook T&C set the basis for the relationship, not your personal definition of what being facebook friends allows or doesnt allow.

2. Testing an alpha product on behalf of plaxo wasnt what people gave him the data for.

As you are based in Canada, you may want to look at the position under Canadian privacy law yourself.
http://www.privcom.gc.ca/speech/2004/vs/vs_sp-d_040331_e.asp
It is very similar to the EU directive
http://www.privcom.gc.ca/information/02_05_d_08_e.asp

]]> By: Lloyd http://foolswisdom.com/scoble-breaks-eu-laws-by-updating-his-address-book/comment-page-1/#comment-99588 Lloyd Thu, 10 Jan 2008 18:28:57 +0000 http://foolswisdom.com/scoble-breaks-eu-laws-by-updating-his-address-book/#comment-99588 I’m genuinely interested if a strong (legal) argument is being made, and even if it hasn’t been I’m interested in it being clarified and made (if it exists). I’m genuinely interested if a strong (legal) argument is being made, and even if it hasn’t been I’m interested in it being clarified and made (if it exists).

]]> By: Lloyd http://foolswisdom.com/scoble-breaks-eu-laws-by-updating-his-address-book/comment-page-1/#comment-99572 Lloyd Thu, 10 Jan 2008 18:04:59 +0000 http://foolswisdom.com/scoble-breaks-eu-laws-by-updating-his-address-book/#comment-99572 Thomas Otter starts off with the legal definition of personal information in European Union. Ok, following him so far... oh wait, he is now taking about the history and what would make a good foundation for a service that consumes personal data. Oh, wait again, now he seems to only talking about the "UK Act" -- not sure what that is. Damn, he is now saying someone else "nails it", <a href="http://www.roughtype.com/" rel="nofollow">Nick Carr</a>! I'm lost. I'm back to my original comment of, if nailing means taking the back roads and maybe not even arriving at your destination. If you want to read a strong argument, a legal one at that, see <a href="http://lawgeek.typepad.com/" rel="nofollow">Jason Schultz"</a> <a href="http://lawgeek.typepad.com/lawgeek/2007/12/copyright-fair.html" rel="nofollow">Copyright, fair use and the struggle against online image misappropriation</a>. Thomas Otter starts off with the legal definition of personal information in European Union. Ok, following him so far… oh wait, he is now taking about the history and what would make a good foundation for a service that consumes personal data. Oh, wait again, now he seems to only talking about the “UK Act” — not sure what that is. Damn, he is now saying someone else “nails it”, Nick Carr! I’m lost.

I’m back to my original comment of, if nailing means taking the back roads and maybe not even arriving at your destination.

If you want to read a strong argument, a legal one at that, see Jason Schultz” Copyright, fair use and the struggle against online image misappropriation.

]]> By: Lloyd http://foolswisdom.com/scoble-breaks-eu-laws-by-updating-his-address-book/comment-page-1/#comment-99565 Lloyd Thu, 10 Jan 2008 17:46:54 +0000 http://foolswisdom.com/scoble-breaks-eu-laws-by-updating-his-address-book/#comment-99565 Dennis, sorry, I have reread your article again, and still don't see a clear accusation. What is the specific provision? The quote of Thomas Otter doesn't include a clear accusation. You write "And under EU law, it’s also illegal." What is <em>it</em><em>?</em> Dennis, sorry, I have reread your article again, and still don’t see a clear accusation. What is the specific provision?

The quote of Thomas Otter doesn’t include a clear accusation. You write “And under EU law, it’s also illegal.” What is it?

]]> By: Dennis Howlett http://foolswisdom.com/scoble-breaks-eu-laws-by-updating-his-address-book/comment-page-1/#comment-99536 Dennis Howlett Thu, 10 Jan 2008 16:40:30 +0000 http://foolswisdom.com/scoble-breaks-eu-laws-by-updating-his-address-book/#comment-99536 He broke the law - if you check the post I point to the specific provision. Jump to Thomas Otter's site and you can see the whole 9 yards. He broke the law – if you check the post I point to the specific provision. Jump to Thomas Otter’s site and you can see the whole 9 yards.

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