Comments on: Open Source Free Web Site Templates without the Open Source http://foolswisdom.com/open-source-free-web-site-templates-without-the-open-source/ A fool and his blog are soon parted. Fri, 19 Mar 2010 02:39:29 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0-alpha By: Derek K. Miller http://foolswisdom.com/open-source-free-web-site-templates-without-the-open-source/comment-page-1/#comment-108065 Derek K. Miller Tue, 12 Feb 2008 05:47:31 +0000 http://foolswisdom.com/?p=733#comment-108065 Thanks for investigating that. I've updated my original post. Thanks for investigating that. I’ve updated my original post.

]]> By: that girl again http://foolswisdom.com/open-source-free-web-site-templates-without-the-open-source/comment-page-1/#comment-108022 that girl again Mon, 11 Feb 2008 23:26:24 +0000 http://foolswisdom.com/?p=733#comment-108022 I don't think I'll ever understand what's so terrible about giving credit where it's due. Having said that, I've pretty much given up on CC-Attribution. The kind of ungrateful jerks who want to pass your work off as their own are not going to take any notice of your terms of use (and in extreme cases will run around claiming your licence is wrong and they're entitled to disregard it, as if legal obligations were the same as ethical ones). And decent people don't <em>need</em> to be ordered to keep your credit in place. I can see, though, that not all theme designers have reached that level of cynicism yet and still believe that their licencing terms will be respected by end users. I don’t think I’ll ever understand what’s so terrible about giving credit where it’s due. Having said that, I’ve pretty much given up on CC-Attribution. The kind of ungrateful jerks who want to pass your work off as their own are not going to take any notice of your terms of use (and in extreme cases will run around claiming your licence is wrong and they’re entitled to disregard it, as if legal obligations were the same as ethical ones). And decent people don’t need to be ordered to keep your credit in place.

I can see, though, that not all theme designers have reached that level of cynicism yet and still believe that their licencing terms will be respected by end users.

]]> By: zorger http://foolswisdom.com/open-source-free-web-site-templates-without-the-open-source/comment-page-1/#comment-107646 zorger Sun, 10 Feb 2008 02:47:54 +0000 http://foolswisdom.com/?p=733#comment-107646 It's funny but I feel the same way about the GPL. It’s funny but I feel the same way about the GPL.

]]> By: Lloyd http://foolswisdom.com/open-source-free-web-site-templates-without-the-open-source/comment-page-1/#comment-107583 Lloyd Sat, 09 Feb 2008 16:26:48 +0000 http://foolswisdom.com/?p=733#comment-107583 zorger, putting things in the public domain is a fantastic contribution to the commons! I just have never found it generally pragmatic. adam, to be clear, I didn't say that CC licenses couldn't be acceptable as open source, it is completely dependent on how attribution is required. If it is required in a particular way in the experience, it is inappropriate for open source. Based on my last paragraph I hope you appreciate that I also did not suggest removing attribution. Because all the CC licenses are incompatible with the most popular open source licenses, they are not generally a good choice though. zorger, putting things in the public domain is a fantastic contribution to the commons! I just have never found it generally pragmatic.

adam, to be clear, I didn’t say that CC licenses couldn’t be acceptable as open source, it is completely dependent on how attribution is required. If it is required in a particular way in the experience, it is inappropriate for open source.

Based on my last paragraph I hope you appreciate that I also did not suggest removing attribution.

Because all the CC licenses are incompatible with the most popular open source licenses, they are not generally a good choice though.

]]> By: adam http://foolswisdom.com/open-source-free-web-site-templates-without-the-open-source/comment-page-1/#comment-107577 adam Sat, 09 Feb 2008 15:36:31 +0000 http://foolswisdom.com/?p=733#comment-107577 there are a few on <a href="http://browse.deviantart.com/designs/web/?catpath=designs%2Fweb%2F&q=gpl" rel="nofollow">deviant art</a>, although most wordpress templates get submitted under Skins & Themes > Blog Skins, which has no results for GPL. I don't agree with your objection to CC licenses, though (or specifically CC-by-sa) - the GPL doesn't grant you the freedom to remove attribution either. Specifically, if a copyright notice is included in the theme, you can't remove it (GPL section 2(c)) there are a few on deviant art, although most wordpress templates get submitted under Skins & Themes > Blog Skins, which has no results for GPL.

I don’t agree with your objection to CC licenses, though (or specifically CC-by-sa) – the GPL doesn’t grant you the freedom to remove attribution either. Specifically, if a copyright notice is included in the theme, you can’t remove it (GPL section 2(c))

]]> By: zorger http://foolswisdom.com/open-source-free-web-site-templates-without-the-open-source/comment-page-1/#comment-107505 zorger Sat, 09 Feb 2008 04:26:56 +0000 http://foolswisdom.com/?p=733#comment-107505 RE: If you are reading this wondering what license to use, you can’t go wrong with GPL v2 Just give it away in the public domain - http://creativecommons.org/licenses/publicdomain/. If it's good they will come. If they don't you probably don't want them anyway. RE: If you are reading this wondering what license to use, you can’t go wrong with GPL v2

Just give it away in the public domain – http://creativecommons.org/licenses/publicdomain/. If it’s good they will come. If they don’t you probably don’t want them anyway.

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